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A teacher's job is priceless in many ways, yet it is highly undervalued in today's society. According to a 2022 survey, less than one in five teachers would encourage a young person to pursue a career in education.

And you don't have to look far to find the reasons. Low salaries are reason enough: the gap between the weekly wages of teachers and college graduates working in other professions grew to 26.4% in 2022. These are record numbers, considering the gap was only 6.1% in 1996.

Teachers are the people shaping the next generation, so we should hold their jobs in high regard. However, the teacher-student relationship can sometimes go both ways. At least, this is what this person had in mind when they started this Quora thread. They asked: "As a teacher, what is the harshest truth a student has ever taught you?"

Many educators shared the unexpected life lessons they got from their students, proving that a kid can teach a teacher something new about the world and life as well.

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread That I am not the unbiased person I thought I was.

Let's call him Bubba. He was in a required freshman year experience class that all faculty rotated teaching. I normally teach statistics and research methods.

Students are required to write a paper on any topic, as a method of our gauging their knowledge of things like APA style and that a sentence begins with a capital letter and ends in some form of punctuation. This assignment allows us to intervene early with students who simply cannot write and refer them for tutoring in their first semester.

Bubba sat in the back of the room, cowboy hat tipped down, boots on the chair in front of him, chewing tobacco. Never said a word.

The title of his paper was something like "The Use of Allegory and Metaphor in the Works of John Steinbeck."

I assumed he had copied or paid for it. There was no way this kid wrote it. I consulted a senior professor about what to do and she said, "Invite him to your office to discuss it. If he wrote it, he'll be flattered. If he didn't, he'll be busted."

So, I did. Bubba tips back his hat, looks me in the eye and says,

"Well, ma'am, when I was on the rodeo circuit, my partner gave me this book, The Red Pony, because I had to do a school book report and since it was about a horse, me and him figured it would be good. When I read it, though, it was about a lot more than a horse .... "

Bubba went on at great length about all of Steinbeck's books that he had read and what they meant to him personally.

I was SO glad I had followed the advice to ask him about his paper instead of accusing him of cheating, and did I ever feel like an idiot!

AnnMaria De Mars , Katerina Holmes Report

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread There was a young woman in one of my college classes who was frequently late. It happened often enough that it became irritating and even mildly disruptive. One day, I decided to put an end to it, and asked her to stay after class a few minutes so we could chat.

Just as I was about to launch into a long lecture about the importance of being on time in the business world, she apologized about the frequent lateness. Then said, “I’m at my wit’s end, my mother is dying of cancer and can’t be left alone. The day-care person is sometimes late, and I can’t leave earlier because of other responsibilities.”

When she told me that, the few minutes she arrived late didn’t seem that important by comparison. We made a deal; she could come late when she needed to, and would not speed to get there. Another classmate and friend was already catching her up on anything covered before she got there. When she arrived late after that, I greeted her with a nod and a smile. She was able to resolve the day care issue shortly afterwards.

Lesson learned: We never know what burdens people are carrying. We should give people the benefit of the doubt and get the facts before assuming they are lazy, insincere, or purposely doing something to annoy us.

Mel Blumberg , Alexander Grey Report

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Jinx (she/her)
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5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yep. My mom's been fighting the big C for a few years now, it's finally coming to an end. I'll be bringing her home to die here soon.. I can barely stand to cook or clean after a visit in the hospital so I applaud this person for doing anything, nevermind going to school. Its more than I'm managing

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread Going anonymous as this is about my students, however real names are not used.

I’m a maths teach at a local secondary school in an area where most students live off benefits. I had one girl, Daisy, who was highly intelligent, we did an iq test and her score was in the 140s.

One day I asked her if she was going to university, no was her answer, I was puzzled, she excelled in class and had a keen interest in maths and science. She was proud too, wearing her maths and science award badges everyday.

I asked her why, here was her response.

‘I can’t afford it’

Me:’you can get scholarships and grants’

‘It’s not that, trust me I’ve checked, it’s the living costs.’

That’s when I realised, this girl was 12 and knew she couldn’t progress further than college, not due to lack of talent or enthusiasm, due to money. I sat down with her, she cried all of one lunch in year 11, I cried to, at her potential wasted beyond belief, maybe the most talented student I’ve ever taught, not able to advance.

I started a fund for all the children like her, unable to attend university due to money, and it worked. I raised enough to put her though and support her family, I’ve put other though uni too.

I learnt that money is a problem and a worry for 12 year old girls but I also learnt talent can’t be wasted, children like her need a way to succeed.

I hope I gave that to her, she now works as a medical researcher and was given the life she never thought she’d have.

Anonymous , Pixabay Report

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Content Wombat
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, this is sad but uplifting. It's awful that education is something that people have to pay for in some countries. I've always thought that all education should be free for everyone. (Edited for clarity)

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread School is not the most important thing in every student's life.

Early in my career, as an idealistic, demanding history teacher, I had a student (10th grade, so 15-16 years old) who was struggling to keep up with her homework and was at risk of failing. I berated her one afternoon for continuing to come up with excuses and for continuing to ask for extensions and not meet my expectations.

I happened to catch her on the news later that week testifying in front of the state legislature, in support of a bill that would protect victims of sexual abuse. The bill carried her name.

Taught me a small dose of humility and a large dose of humanity.

Anonymous , Max Fischer Report

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Guess Undheit
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Typical idiot, berating and attacking a kid instead of finding out what was going on. I got a student to tell me what she was playing hooky, turned out her mother beat the sith out of her regularly.

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread I knew a student, who was a wonderful young man. Everyday, he came to school prepared, dressed (in his school “uniform”) and was a pleasure to to have in class according to his teachers.

One day he was sent to my office by one of his teachers because he wasn’t wearing his school “uniform” ( blue polo shirt and khaki or blue pants). I asked him why he didn’t have on his uniform and he said his mother had not had a chance to do laundry.

Having heard that (excuse) hundreds of times, I told the young man that I needed to speak with his mother to confirm his story. He noted that her phone wasn’t working but she would be there to pick him up after school. I told him that I would talk to his mother after school and sent him back to class with a PE shirt to wear (school policy).

At 3:00 sharp, he came to my office and informed me his mother was outside waiting. I walked outside with him and went over to the car. As I neared the car I noticed that it was full of clothes, bags, etc. His mother immediately started apologizing for all the “junk” in the car, explaining that they were in the process of moving. She also apologized for not having a working phone.

When I inquired about his uniform, his mother looked ashamed and said, “I’m really sorry about his uniform, but we are actually between shelters and have been living in the car for about a month.” It turns out they were homeless, hungry, using the restroom at a nearby park to bath, etc. But still he came to school, ready to learn, every single day!!!

I learned a powerful lesson that day about courage, tenacity, and class!!

PS. I referred them to the district (homeless) services department and they were able to find them shelter, food, etc.

Rick Weber , Aric McKeown Report

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Sava Hax
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unreal can't imagine what that must be like. Can only praise them for turning to drügs or booze. (I swear to god BP if you censor the word B O O Z E I'm lose my s**t)

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread When I was teaching a high school class at an international school in Mexico, I thought I was superior to my students. I had a New England education, English was my first language. I had a solid moral background. There was little (I thought) that my students could teach me.

One day, just before class, a student, by the name of Nicolas, came and asked me if he could go to the bathroom. I told him yes, but to hurry back because class would begin in five minutes. He asked, "Don't I need a pass?"

Our principal was very strict and required every student to have a pass if he or she was out of class. I told him, "Just go! Hurry up back."

Then I began writing the lesson on the board.

He returned about ten minutes later looking very dejected. I asked him if he was okay and he said, "Yes. No problem."

So, I continued with the lesson. But at the end of the period as students were leaving, I noticed he still looked dejected.

"You okay, Nick? You look depressed."

He replied, "Well, I got put on detention by the principal for being in the hall without a pass."

"But didn't you tell him that I advised you to go ahead without one?" I asked.

"No," he replied.

"Well, why on earth not?" I asked exasperated.

"Because I didn't want you to get in trouble, sir," he replied.

I realized then that here was a student who was superior to me in sensitivity and caring. I could never have imagined doing such a thing when I was a high school student. I was humbled. The incident showed me not to underestimate the existing values of those whom I presumed to teach.

Michael Hogan , Max Fischer Report

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Charity Angel
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I truly hope that OP went to the principal and asked for the detention to be overturned.

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread I was a first year teacher with a 6th grade class. I had one very bright student who never did his homework. I tried everything but he simply came in most days with little or none of it done.

I held him after class one day to finish it and he did in record time. I asked him why it was never done. He responded that he and his family were homeless. They were actually sleeping in the back of a station wagon and eating food they could scavenge and buy cheaply. They used public restrooms and parked wherever they could until they were told to move on. He told me he tried to do it at the library but mom had two other children to look after and she could not always arrange to get him there.

I told him he could stay after with me each day to complete his work in a warm, safe classroom. I would routinely stay late to complete my work and prep for the next day’s classes so it was not a problem for me to do this. I also made sure there were snacks and drinks for him. We struck up a friendship as I learned more about him and I decided to do what I could to help him and his family out.

I contacted my administrator who arranged for the family to get subsidized housing. They got it almost immediately but it meant a move to another town and school district. The superintendent handled those specifics.

A few days later, my superintendent paid me a surprise visit. I asked him if there was a problem. To my surprise, he pulled out a letter for me to read. This student wrote him personally with a request to finish out the year in my class. He stated that I was the first teacher who took an interest in him and genuinely cared about what would happen to him. I’m sure that’s not true but that letter really got to me. I had tears running down my face as I read it.

Unfortunately, he was not allowed to stay in my school and classroom as it was deemed to be unfair to the local taxpayers if he was found living in the neighboring town. However, by a twist of fate, he ended to in the classroom of the very teacher who mentored me during my student teaching. As she was still a friend of mine, I called her, gave her his background, and stated my concerns. She promised to personally look out for him.

A few months later, his family moved again and, at this point, I lost contact with him. I think of him even today and wonder how he finally made out. He had a tough life and I hope he eventually came through it in good shape.

https://qr.ae/pszC8t , Katerina Holmes Report

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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is actually one of the reasons I'm a care driver, so that children can be kept in the same school and not bounce around because of lack of housing.

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread I was trying to rush through an explanation of a complicated physics concept before the bell rang, and the top student in my class raised his hand and said, "You know, just because you're up there teaching, doesn't mean we're learning."


I'm sure many students have thought something like this in millions of classes around the world, but they don't say anything (it would almost always be terribly impolite). The only reason this student said it, and got away with it, is that he was my 16-year-old son.

John Krehbiel , Yan Krukau Report

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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So true. Almost all of my university professors are like this. And I study in a reputed institution. Maybe they are good researchers but they can't teach if their lives depended on it (oh well it does). We have a very very old Quantum Mechanics professor who would just mumble things to himself in class.We can't complain because everyone is scared to stand out and nobody would believe us ( believe me, I tried). Besides, curse of knowledge is very prevalent among seasoned academics.

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread That you cannot always protect your pupils.

A 9 year old girl disclosed to me that she had been sexually abused by her grandfather. Her grandparents lived overseas and were due to arrive within days so that her own parents could go on a pilgrimage to Mecca.

She was terrified, not for herself alone, but for her younger sister who was of the age that she was, when first abused.

The courage it took for this child to disclose to me was extraordinary- she had never told anyone and would not have told anyone if it was not for her love for her younger sister.

As the designated person in the school for child protection I immediately alerted social services. They told me to inform the parents (as we, the school has an already existing relationship with them), which I did, but to make a (VERY) long story short, nothing was done and the parents went away on their pilgrimage and left both girls in the care of their grandparents. I tried everything to get the girls out of there including asking if they could stay with me, but was refused by social services and the family.

The parents moved the girls to another school shortly thereafter and said that they would take legal action against me if I ever contacted them again.

This was many years ago now, when I was a Deputy Head- about 26 or 27 years? I have never forgotten those precious girls and that lesson.

Educators, medics, police- we all suspect, see and are told about abuse, but the ‘rights’ of parents always come first- not the rights of children, sadly. It's a very sad truth and a hard lesson to learn.

Grainne O'Reilly , RDNE Stock project Report

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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is sick and heartbreaking. If you're first instinct isn't to do whatever it takes to protect your children, you don't deserve to have them.

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread Overall I may have learned more from my students over the years than they learned from me. The last school I taught in had a meaningful slogan; "We are a community of learners." Teaching is a great learning experience, but most of this learning isn't harsh.

There was a time when I learned more than I could have expected from a mistake I made with a student. She had been complaining about the same thing over and over again as class was to begin, and rather than calmly telling her that we could discuss this in private later, I suddenly lost it and loudly and angrily yelled at her. She slumped to her seat, and I started the lesson in front of a stunned class.

Suddenly I realized that I had grossly overreacted and that no one was going to learn anything about physics that day. I had to own my mistake. I walked up to the girl, who sat in the middle of the class on my left side and told her that I apologized and that nothing she did justified the way I treated her.

I assumed that I would lose the respect of the class by apologizing in this way, but the exact opposite happened. They respected me more than ever before, and things were learned about physics that day, but that was the least of what was learned.

I learned that a sincere apology when wrong is an essential part of working well with people and that when this becomes part of a culture, an authentic community is developed. Whether or not, as Gibbs says on NCIS, apologizing is a sign of weakness, apologizing makes a person stronger.

Robert Reiland , Mikhail Nilov Report

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread It was my second year teaching. I had a young man in my seventh period class (though at the time it was called “I” period). College-prep twelfth-graders. He was a very nice guy. Personable. Bright. Hard-working. I am very sorry that, 40 years later, I do not remember his name.

A month or two into the school year, he started being absent. The absences increased. I would get requests for homework, I would get completed work to grade, and once in a while the kid would come to class. Right after Christmas vacation, another teacher comes in to tell me that he was on permanent homebound instruction, and she was his instructor. Would I please keep her up to date on everything we were doing in class and provide her with all the necessary books, materials, etc.

Turns out he had leukemia. The last several weeks he was on homebound, his lessons were delivered to him in the hospital.

He died before his class graduated.

I was always impressed that even though he knew he was dying and probably realized that he would never live to receive a high school diploma or “use” anything he learned in school, he never quit. He never just said “What’s the use?” and lay back to die.

That was a powerful lesson for a 23-year-old kid who was barely two years out of college.

Doug Grudzina , Pixabay Report

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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think perhaps he should have. "Quitting" is such a weird concept, we shame quitters when really it only means that you stopped wasting your time on something. *Sometimes* it's because you think you can't succeed, when you could have if only you had kept going, but more often it's just that you see something more valuable to you. Normalize saying "I can do that, but should I?" He could have spent his last months with his family and friends.

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread One day I was getting very angry at the 2nd girl who was “my difficult child” who was refusing to get into line because she was sure that somebody had stolen a coloring she had made for her mom. She was yelling “I'm not going to see her for 2 more weeks.” Other students tried to calm her down by saying, “I haven't seen my mom in 2 years. My dad went back to Mexico and can't come back; I don't even know when I'll see him again”. I sat back thinking I'm mad because they won't get in line for gym. My reality is so far from theirs, how can I teach them? and I was never able to teach them in the same way again.

Brooke Epps , cottonbro studio Report

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On a rainy Tuesday afternoon, my first grade students were roaming about the classroom, choosing activities as they saw fit for themselves.

Since the students were busy I took the opportunity to straighten my desk.

About ten minutes in, I noticed Niko was next to me with a pile of crumpled papers. I stopped what I was doing and looked at him. He was still mashing and crumpling papers into balls.

I said, "Niko, I'm cleaning up my desk. And I think you know where that pile of paper balls goes." I pointed at the trash can in the corner.

He looked at me with his green eyes wide, "But Kathy, this isn't trash!"

"No?"

"No! These are origami rocks. I'm making you a rock garden!"

Its all matter of perspective. I no longer see crumpled papers the same way.

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread My wife and I call it the Anthony Chen response, named for the brilliant ninth grader who enlightened me. In an informal conversation before class, I was complaining about the stupidity of the actions and thinking of some group—I honestly don’t remember what we were talking about—and Anthony said, “Remember, Mr. Hays, half the world is below average.”

The simple, obvious and horrible truth of the statement—something I’d never considered—overwhelmed me. I actually had to sit down and think after he said it. Now when either my wife or I are complaining about the idiocy of someone’s or some group’s (usually political) behavior, the other might say, Remember Anthony Chen!

Michael Hays , Max Fischer Report

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread One day a student walked into my class at the beginning of the period and stood in front of my desk. She said, “I have no idea who you are.”

It took me a second to realize she wasn’t playing around. She had had a seizure that morning and was still recovering her memory. In spite of this, the student preferred to go to school and participate in her daily routine than stay at home. She got from class to class for the first half of the day with the help of her friends, whom she could recognize, even though she didn’t yet remember their names.

At the beginning of the school year, this student had written me a note on her first homework assignment. The note was a response to some kind of rallying cry I had made—I had said something like, “All of you are capable of getting A’s in this class, and I hope that all of you will.” This student wrote, “I just want you to know that I’ll try my best, but I’m not smart and I’m not going to be able to get an A in this class.”

The reason this student made such an impression on me is that she really was bright. She was quite smart. And so I pushed her, I encouraged her, I did everything I could to help her learn and succeed. But she just had one of those lives where everything keeps going wrong. A month or so after she had this seizure, her father died suddenly. The student was in and out of school for the rest of the year, and ended up receiving an incomplete in most of her classes—and so she was right. She didn’t get an A.

The harsh truth I learned was that even when both the teacher and the student mean well, and pour everything they have into furthering the student’s education, there is a ton of crap that can get in the way. Sometimes you just have no control. And maybe all the effort, and thought, and positive energy you put into that student will make a dent in their life, but you as the teacher do not get to change the life of every student. Sometimes you do not even get to choose which students you help. There are forces at play that are much, much bigger than you.

Stevie Henry , RDNE Stock project Report

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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That student may well look back and remember that OP cared enough to try. Sometimes that's what counts, especially during hard times.

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread I had a student who came into my history class and told me how she hated history, hated me, and did not want to be there. She then said I am a black lesbian, EFF YOU whitey. I looked at her the class hearing this was not sure what or how I would react. I smiled and said, so does this mean we are not going to have lunch later. She looked at me as if to say something profound but just shook her head. Silence was deafening for a few minutes. It was our first day of class, I said my job is not to make you love history but my job is to assure that you have a basic historical understanding. I will make a deal with all of you, give me three classes, if you do not like what you are hearing, seeing, reading, or learning drop the class, add another class. But I ask you keep an open mind. We have a class section called stump the prof, its your turn to ask me history classes. It has to be related to American history is the only catch.

She would ask me questions every class and they showed an understanding that I admired. She was not afraid to express herself, she was not polished, she was blunt and to the point. We watched a documentary on the Triangle Coat Factory Fire in the 1900s and said with a sadness in her voice, Prof that could have been me or any of us girls in this class. What she taught me is we all can change and become a better self. Her willingness to see these young dead women in caskets due to neglect made her realize it could have been her. She changed from a angry young woman to a stronger empathetic history lover.

David McMillan , Karolina Kaboompics Report

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LaserBrain
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I applaud this educator. I am an instructor myself, not in the school system though. Somehow it seems that it shouldn't be the teacher's job to convince a student to want to learn something while the other students are waiting there ready to learn.

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread I already knew this but one student brought it home. Students come to your class with their own set of problems. I had many students from the Oakland area. I could almost always identify these students based on their writing. Usually it was far below the standard. Most of them had identifiers that were typical of second language students. I had one student, however, who didn’t display any of these identifiers. In fact, he wrote an essay and read it in class that was so good several of the other students were in tears. I was in tears. Within two classes after he read his essay, he disappeared. This happens often, so while I was disapointed, I wasn’t surprised. Then he returned the next semester. He came late, left early, and missed classed often. Then he called me. “Ms. Fox,” he said, “I want to explain to you. I have panic attacks in class. I want to come. You’re a great teacher, but I… I don’t know. I just panic and want to run. I watch the door and I need to run.”
I didn’t understand why, but I wanted to help, so I promised him he could have a seat by the door and that we would leave the door open at all times. He could step out whenever he needed. He could leave whenever he needed. I also offered to go with him to speak to his counselor to see if there was some other way I could help him. He agreed.
We went to the meeting and he explained. He talked about being the little guy in a gang-filled neighborhood. He talked about being teased in school. He talked about being physically handled by teachers. He talked about being afraid that his mother would drop him off on a doorstep because that’s what other mothers did. He talked about his own amazing mother who took these doorstep children in.
And I understood. This young man was suffering from post traumatic stress disorder from the treatment he received in school.
School is not a safe place for everyone.
I never saw this student again. I had his number and called to check on him, but it was disconnected. The really sad thing is that he was an exceptional writer who had a story to tell that could have potentially changed education for many people who have suffered the abuses that he suffered, and he had the ability to tell his story. He could write in a way that brought tears.
The harshest truth is that education fails brilliant people.

Jeanna Fox , Pixabay Report

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Jesha
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Having one understanding teacher can mean the world, and I hope he learns from this that it's not a waste to keep advocating for himself.

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread I haven't got anything as life changing as some of the other answers here, but still this made me reconsider some aspects of my teaching.

I teach English as a second language in Norway. This happened in my first year of teaching.
I was a new English teacher and very conscientious and thorough in everything I did. It was Friday, and the last session of the week. I was teaching in a class of 15 year olds, and I was giving the students back some written work which I had graded, commented and very thoroughly corrected.
To give positive feedback is important!

One guy in my class got his work back. He was not a very diligent student, but had probably done the best he could. His English left quite a bit to be desired, and I had painstakingly corrected every smaller and bigger mistake in his work with a red pen (of course).

He got back his paper, looked at it with a tired glance and said so everyone could hear it.
"Gee, who has poured blood all over my paper?" (In norwegian: "Hvem ere som har blødd på stilen min a?")

With my back turned to the student, I just froze. I was delivering some other kid his paper, and I felt this kid's pain. Here he had done the best he could do, and I, stupid teacher, had to correct and show him everything that was wrong. How does that feel to a tender young man? Even if you are not tender at all, but full of pimples and 6 feet tall? That has got to hurt. Of course it does. Is it any wonder that many students just look at their grade, and then throw their paper in the bin?

After that I don't usually correct every mistake. Especially if the student has a lot to work on. I try to find a few things to focus on for each kid, and also to focus on what's good in the work they've done. Sometimes that is difficult, but I owe it to this student. (And every other student as well.)

And of course, I will never again correct any student's work with a red pen. I use a green one instead.

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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Green ink is a marvelous idea. Somehow the red pen just makes a person feel judged...

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread While handing out the literature list for the upcoming year of high school, I casually asked the students in my class what they thought about it. One girl raised her hand and said: "Are you at all surprised we don't read but watch tv when teachers hand out these kinds of reading lists?"

The list was full of English literature they couldn't possibly understand regarding their proficiency levels and I suddenly remembered being discouraged myself when I had to read books like these while in high school.

I made an appointment with the headteacher, took this student with me and tried to persuade him to get rid of the obligatory reading lists.

During the next week's lesson, I told the classes they could choose three of their own books. They did great during the oral exams.

Vicky van der Zee , Karolina Kaboompics Report

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Susie Elle
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5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I remember feeling similar about my literature list in highschool, which I believe was pretty uniform throughout the country. Dutch literature, or perhaps all literature, has the tendency to be extremely bleak and depressing and in which the characters are either actively experiencing all kinds of extreme trauma OR they're the ones who're putting others through that trauma. Usually there's also some type of sexual perversion involved. It's never just a story, it's like it always has to be as decrepit as possible. I hated it. I wanted to read fantasy, but that wasn't considered 'literature'.

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread In the final year of my 6 years of teaching Masters and PhD students, I had a student come up to me after class and kindly suggest that there was a much better way to approach the coding example I had just provided and showed me on my computer. I realized then that our skills are only good for at most 5 years. After that, all skills are obsolete.

Gordon Miller , Lukas Report

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread Shortly after my divorce, I was teaching reading in 6th grade. I was unhappy but going through the motions of teaching the best that I could. I was tired after school and less than a model parent to my own two children.

One of my 180 students that year, Mark, a quiet and polite student, was only attending my first period class two or three days a week. He rarely did his homework and failed most of his tests. At a conference with his other core teachers, I was not surprised to find out that he was failing his other classes as well. As a teaching team we called a parent teacher conference. We were hoping to work together with Mark’s parents in an effort to help Mark’s attendance and motivation.

The conference was scheduled for 7:15am in the morning before school. Mark’s father came in smelly, unkempt, extremely overweight and drunk. His mom had left the family with no notice or word of if she’d ever return. Mark’s father was explosive, miserable and ready to punish Mark harshly if he didn’t improve. Quite frankly, I was a little afraid for Mark.

After the conference I asked Mark to come to class just to talk for a minute. After starting the class and assigning a task for the other students, I called Mark to my desk and told him that I was sorry for his situation and hoped things would get better for him. I asked him if he might find more peace at home by doing some of the things his father asked him to do.

Mark responded quickly, “Why? So I can be more like him?”

My harsh truth came instantly. I realized then that I needed to be a happier, healthier person to give my own kids a better example. Why would they want to do what I asked if they saw me as a miserable adult? Mark motivated me to become a happier adult and taught me how to be a better parent.

P.S. Thank you all for your questions of concern for Mark. I would love to tell you a happy success story for him. However, shortly after the conference, Mark and his father moved away from the school area. He didn’t stay in touch with me, any of his other teachers or any of the students. Sadly, I don’t know what happened to Mark. I wish this was an isolated incident but our schools are full of similar stories, especially in lower socioeconomic areas. In my opinion, this type of story won’t improve until parenting improves. Is there hope for advancing parenting skills?

Ruthie Moller , Rex Pickar Report

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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First step might be not to force someone not wanting to be a parent to carry a pregnancy for 'the love of the childs life'.

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread Nothing I do matters if the child is not ready to learn.

As captivating as I can be, when a child doesn't have a place to live, regular sleep, food, warm clothing, and LOVE; processing my words is impossible.

I can only control so much in a student's life.

I can make sure they eat breakfast and lunch, organize food/clothing drives, hug them and build them up, give their parents access to community services, and call CPS, but there is an awful lot of their life that I just cannot change.

I learn these over and over again, but they're heartbreakingly harsh each time.

Ellen Burchett , Yan Krukau Report

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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank you for being there for the kids who needed someone to help them feel safe and secure.

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread It was one of the most blatant cases of plagiarism on a term paper I have encountered in nearly a decade as a university professor.

A student - a ‘business bro’ - was taking my theology class at a Catholic study abroad program in Rome. He, like many students, was there for the experience of being in Rome more than the classes. I’m used to them. They generally do enough work to get a C or a low B, but that’s it.

When it came time to hand in the paper for the term, he turned in a paper written by another student who took the same class previously. He changed the name and date and nothing else. I know this, because he left ‘track changes’ on, and when i opened the paper I saw not only his changes and the original student information, but also all of my comments and final grade from grading the previous paper.

According to school policy, I could either fail him the assignment, fail him the class, or recommend suspension from the university. I leaned toward him failing the class, but the dean and director of the program both preferred he just fail the assignment. So he did, got a D in the class, and passed.

A couple years later, LinkedIn recommended him as a connection. He was less than a year out from graduation and working as a consultant at some firm in some big US city. According to Glassdoor, he was likely making 3x my salary, in his first year.

He didn’t intend to, but that certainly underlined the fact that salary is rarely a good indicator of hard work, competence, integrity, or intelligence, and it always surprises me when people assume that it is.

Andrew Boyd , Tima Miroshnichenko Report

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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The lowest paid staff often work far harder than the managers above them.

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread I was teaching in a UK school and it was in a very rough area. There was a young girl of 11 whose parents didn’t have much, but she always looked happy.

I recall I was starting to become rather disillusioned with teaching and thought that there were better things I could be doing with my life.

One day, close to Christmas, I learned that this little girl had witnessed her father being shot and he died right there in front of her. I was mortified for her. Her mother came into school and said that because it’s so close to Christmas, she’d like to maintain the girl’s friendship groups and get her to share in the end of term fun with her peers, so she should remain in school. The school helped this happen in a very supportive way.

The girls was in my class. We’d got to the end of the activities and we were waiting, lined up, for the end of class bell. I asked what everyone was getting for Christmas.

“A BMX bike,” said one. “My mum’s getting me a Wendy house,” said another. The little girl’s hand went up in a shot and she had a gigantic smile beaming across her face and she said, full of the joys of Christmas, “I’ve asked Santa for a hoola-hoop,” she beamed. I was floored.

This is a girl that had lost her father so violently and all she wanted was a hoola hoop. I was quite distressed that she wanted so little. But then I thought about it.

All the others sounded so sure about what they were getting, about what their parents were buying them. It was clear that their belief in Santa had waned. But it was clear from her answer that her belief was still alive.

This got me thinking about my own position. That no matter what you take from a child, their heart is always open to receive. That no matter what Hell has come to them, you can always take them on their own journeys, their own discoveries. And, in true Pandora’s Box style, no matter what you remove, hope remains.

I thought to myself that as long as I can give hope, I’m making a difference to a child. Maybe I’m making them a stronger person; a better person. Maybe I’m making the world a better place through my small contributions to its future inhabitants. Maybe I’m not finished as a teacher; because there are lessons still to be learned.

Paul David , freestocks Report

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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Never EVER ask students these kinds of questions in front of their peers. You never 100% know their economic situation and it is just setting them up to compare themselves to each other based on stuff (they do that enough as it is). Never ask about activities, family holiday, or presents. It seems to innocent if you've been lucky in life, but it can be truly terrible for the child having to make-up a happy story to fit-in

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread Sometimes, you have to give up on someone and focus on the people you can help... the people who actually want your help.

I know that’s a harsh thing for a teacher to say. We’re supposed to spend as much time as necessary to help every student achieve to the best of their potential.

But that’s not the reality. If a student doesn’t want to succeed, there’s not much you can do to help them.

So it was with a student I had five years ago. He never did any work and did everything he could to disrupt class. Frequent discussions with his mom (the dad was not in the picture at all) and frequent visits to the principal’s office did not help. I couldn’t kick him out of class. I couldn’t continue to let him disturb the class.

So I had to give up on him.

I gave him simple worksheets to do on his own, and let him listen to music while I was teaching the rest of the class. He put on his headphones and spent the entire class “looking for a good song” on YouTube. That is, he just watched videos. He didn’t do the worksheets.

But at least he was quiet so I could teach the rest of the class.

His mother even approved of this “alternate, independent learning plan” I came up with. She would have agreed with anything as long as she didn’t have to deal with it.

Every few weeks I’d try to re-integrate him back into the regular classroom, but it always failed. He just didn’t care.

He ended up going to a private high school in a special program that they had for students with behavior disorders. Then he got arrested for vandalism, kicked out of that school, and never enrolled in the public school. He became a dropout. The last I heard of him, he was in jail for stabbing someone in a drug deal gone bad.

His classmates from the class I taught that year, on the other hand, are all college freshmen with bright futures. At least the ones that I keep up with are.

Matthew Bates , Max Fischer Report

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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agree, if you have a certain amount of time and energy it's not really fair to the other students if you spend too much of it with one recalcitrant student who's not interested or doesn't appreciate the value like the others do. It's a difficult position for the teacher because you kind of want to help everybody.

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread Words do matter.

I teach in art and design, and unlike other fields, it involves a certain level of subjectivity and personal vulnerability. At the time, my primary teaching responsibilities were upper-level courses tasked with preparing students to become professionals.

In this instance however, I was asked to teach first-semester freshmen — a rarity for me. The class went relatively well and at the end of the term, each student prepared their work for an exit interview and review.

Normally, these reviews are conducted in faculty teams, but during this particular review, I was alone. No big deal, this wasn’t a problem student. She was a promising individual who showed interest and engagement in the arts. She participated in discussion, regularly attended class, and showed potential in digital work. The review was going fine until we covered the final semester grading — she fell just below an A and was clearly distressed and crushed. So, just as I had done dozens of times before, gave her rationale for the decision, walked her through the individual projects, and told her that learning, developing and ultimately the portfolio itself, were more important than any individual course grade.

It didn’t matter, she was broken. Perhaps she had never received a B in her life, maybe I was too direct or too matter-of-fact, maybe instead of talking, I should have sat quietly and gave her a chance to speak. Whatever it was, I will never know, because when she walked out of the room that day, she didn’t come back.

Through that experience I learned to choose my words more carefully. I learned that sometimes I should shut-up and listen instead of rationalize or justify. I also learned that a student’s mental stability should not be assumed or taken for granted. I used to think brutal honesty was the most fair approach to teaching, I was wrong.

Tom Davie , Andrea Piacquadio Report

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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ugh, as an art student, the BEST teacher I ever had was the one who encouraged our ideas, gave feedback, but didn't tell us our ideas didn't belong. The WORST one was the one who yelled at the class because no one but Justin (Justin, you're amazing, and don't let anyone ever tell you otherwise) understood the assignment. He made one student quit the program, one have an existential crisis in the hallway, and made me cry when I got home. I'm sure I'm not the only one who did.

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I was teaching Freshman Comp as a grad assistant at the University of Michigan. It was a very nice setup, with no more than 17 per class. One class had a tall, reserved young man - boy, really - from somewhere inside Detroit, a place that was wracked with violence for the whole time I was a grad assistant.

My first assignment was meant to ease people into writing on the college level: it doesn’t matter what it is, just talk about something you really know, and I mean *really know*.

His essay stunned me. He recounted a time the previous year when he and three friends were walking down a main Detroit thoroughfare, going home from high school. A pickup truck suddenly stopped abreast of them and two men in the truck opened fire on the students. Two were killed. My student was spared. The truck sped off. Nobody was tracked or arrested.

Since we had only 17 per class, our pattern was to hold one-on-one conferences after each paper. Despite my white, suburban background (which I knew without a single doubt totally disqualified me), I decided to forge ahead.

When he showed up, we just looked at each other. Finally, I said, “I don’t know what to say. This is very moving, and I’m sorry you went through this.”

He sat quietly for a long time. Then he asked, “Mr. Gehman, why would anyone do this?”

A lot went through my mind. Detroit’s black population had soared during World War II as workers funneled north into the Willow Run Bomber Plant and the hundreds of vehicle and munitions factories popped up all around Detroit.

Long-timers were suspicious, the crime rate had gone up, anger festered. Making it worse (or at least limiting abilities to co-exist), the bottom layer in and around Detroit had no truck with education…

Maybe it was this anger that was boiling over. Maybe it was the inability of the ignorant to accept people other than their own. Maybe it was just in the air, ingrained in Detroit, always a brawling lake port and stifling, death-dealing heavy industry hive.

“I don’t know,” I said. “It makes no sense.”

I don’t remember how it ended or how I temporarily escaped the obvious realities of his life. I remember that he became a far better than average writer in less than a semester.

But I’ve never been able to escape his lesson, even though I don’t really know what that lesson was.

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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because unfortunately there are bad ppl in this world, maybe it was meant for them to learn a life lesson to help others in horrific circumstances, n hopefully karma for the bad guys coming up due

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread That some students found me to be intimidating.

That’s something I learned from my first student evaluations at the end of the semester. I was shocked. I thought I was kind, gentle, friendly, … Intimidating? I knew I could not be the teacher I wanted to be if students felt that way.

Incidentally, the department chair wasn’t concerned at all. I actually ranked very high in the reviews, despite that comment. Maybe most professors got comments like that. But I didn’t like it.

It was a long trial and error process, one in which I worked to try to understand better the students point of view, not just about the subject, but about interactions with the professor. I think I made substantial progress, since for the last two decades there have been no mentions on the year-end evaluations of me being intimidating.

Richard Muller , fauxels Report

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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One of my students described me to a colleague this way "I really like him, but he scares the c**p out of me." Some might call this "the perfect balance" in a high school situation. It can be very useful if your students consider you a force to be reckoned with. It gets their attention and , at first at least, their cooperation. When you convince them that this force is one that's on their side and working for them, only then do you make real progress for them.

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread One student asked if she can have a private tutoring session after school so I agreed. Feeling honored and proud that a student is asking for a 1-on-1 session, I was so eager to stay an extra 30 mins after school just for her.

She arrived in the classroom and sat down with her head down. I thought she was sad or had a bad day. I pulled up next to her and opened up with “How’s your day?”

“Not so good, Mr. Lam,” said the student. “My dad is threatening to take away my phone if I don’t make grades.”

“But, you just started 9th grade a few weeks ago. You’re doing okay so far in my class,” I responded.

“It’s not just your class, but all of my classes. If I don’t make grades, my dad will take away my phone and I’ll never get it back.” She said with the look of someone about to lose the most precious thing in life.

I spent the next 30 minutes calming her down about her phone situation, grades, and dad. I was ready to leave, but I wanted to wrap this issue up. I asked her “What’s more important? Grades or phone?”

“My phone.”

I don’t know what it is that made this student so dependent on her phone. I understood how cool it was to even carry a phone when I was in middle school, but this was during the dumb phone era. Nowadays? It’s everywhere. I can’t tell if a student is happy to look down at their seat or just double-tapping that Instagram photo secretly.

I learned that this student prioritizes differently from me. She is more concerned about the phone than grades but she can’t see past what’s in front of her. I wanted to tell her that losing a phone is not the end of the world and she should try to see what her dad was doing - the phone is just motivation to maintain her grades.

After that day, the student did not improve in my class. She stopped asking for help after class. She sat with some distracting students and could not focus. Yes, she also was on her phone a lot in class. I was as much responsible for her demise in my class as anyone around her. I tried talking to her about her grades and poor behavior. It was as if she stopped fearing poor grades and losing phone privileges.

TL;DR: Tried reasoning with a student about grades over phone privileges. Student eventually stopped caring about what anyone thinks of her educational well-being. Nothing more dangerous to a teacher than a student that doesn’t care about herself.

Bruce Lam , Katerina Holmes Report

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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m sorry, but cell phones need to be banned unless they have a good legitimate reason.

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The harshest truth my students ever taught me is that it’s impossible to be entirely objective while teaching.

Some students are simply more engaged in class.

Some students are incredibly attractive.

Some students are routinely brilliant with their answers.

Some students ask the right questions.

I try my best not to favor such students with more attention than others. In fact, I often go the other way, being much stricter on those I feel a bias toward.

I stop myself returning the smile of the attractive student with an involuntary goofy grin, reserving it for the ones who are left-out in class. I hide the names on answer sheets while grading to prevent myself favoring students who’ve previously written great answers with a more cursory reading, while at the same time preventing myself being more intense on students who’ve given me bad answers before. In a hundred little ways, I try not to let my subconscious feelings translate into an outward bias.

I suppose in many ways being 3–4 years older than my students is tough because I relate to them on so many levels. Preventing this from clouding my judgement is the hardest thing about being a teacher.

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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry, but "some students are incredibly attractive" is giving me the icks.

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Decades ago, I was teaching high school kids with mild intellectual disabilities. I was also the senior play sponsor/director. From the first day of play practice, I worked on responsibility. Being on time, learning your lines, taking care of props.

On the week of the play, I reminded students to pick up props in my classroom the Monday after the play. Of course, they didn’t. I had it announced every day during morning and afternoon announcements. Still had a room full of props. Changed the announcement to say that any props left over Friday would be given away. My students with mild disabilities began “shopping”. Claiming props they wanted if not picked up.

Friday came and there were half a dozen or so props left. One was a nice, but not new, makeup case, obviously from a set of matched luggage. One of my girls, Sandra, a quiet, low-key young lady, had looked at it longingly every day. When no one else claimed it, she asked shyly if she could have it. I said yes. Her eyes lit up as she picked it up and headed to the bus.

I guess you can figure out what happened next. The student whose case it was showed up Monday to claim it. I explained to her that it had been given away. She was mad, but I stayed firm. A few days later, the principal called me in. He said he had gotten a phone call from an irate mother. The case was part of a matched set of luggage. She needed it back.

My principal had been pushing personal responsibility all year. He supported my approach to the pick up of props. He had known of my plan ahead of time, and had approved it. The parent was loud, demanding, entitled. She would fight this one to higher authorities (school board or superintendent.) My principal said it was my decision and said he would support my decision, whatever it was.

I chose badly. I succumbed to the pressure from the privileged Mom. I pulled Sandra to the side and told her what happened. I asked her to bring the case back. She looked very hurt, but resigned. She asked if I could take her home one day and pick it up from her house, she was embarrassed to carry it back to school on the bus. I wrote a note to her mom for permission to drive her home on Thursday.

Thursday afternoon, I took her home. They lived in a small white house with flowers outside, right on the edge of the projects. The house was clean, neat and had all kinds of personal touches. I had never met her mom. The mom was much like her daughter, quiet, a bit hesitant. She apologized to me, which made me feel so much worse. I took the case, and called the owner.

I felt wretched. I kept pictured Sandra’s face when she proudly carried the case to the bus. I did what I could do. I bought her a tote bag, a nice handled mirror, and a zippered cosmetic case. She was surprised and delighted. It may have been my guilty conscience, but I think she even liked this bag better.

Sandra taught me a couple of harsh truths:

1. The right path is usually toward protecting the vulnerable
2. Sometimes the bullies win.
3. Sometimes when you mess up big, you can’t fix it
4. A little kindness can be healing

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread I was giving a lecture to around 50 international high school students in my college at Oxford University.

I got drunk before the lecture. I just wanted the paycheck.

The lecture was called ‘Shakespeare 101’ or ‘An Introduction to Shakespeare’ or something equally uninspiring.

I arrived in the hall. Saw a bunch of faces beaming up at me. I put my feet up on a desk and began reading from my notes in a dull monotone. Completely shameless.

The students tolerated about 10 minutes of this crap before one Chinese girl put her hand up and said this:

“Excuse me, Teacher? I have a question. Can you make it less boring?”

Wow.

She was right. It was boring as hell.

Teaching is not about collecting a paycheck.

The onus is NOT on the students to make it interesting.

Good teaching is not just rattling off a bunch of facts while the students scribble down notes.

“You’re right,” I said. “This is boring. I’m so sorry. Here’s what we’re gonna do. I’ve got a script here for Hamlet. We’re all going to act this out line by line.”

I handed out a bunch of sheets and got the whole class up and acting. Actually acting. Saying the words with feeling.

The class livened up. The shy ones came out of their shells. We all laughed. We all became super enthusiastic. They asked me endless questions and I asked them questions back and we all had a great time.

Then at the end of the class, about 20 of them stayed behind for a photo and they all queued up to swap phone numbers with me.

So thank you to that girl who asked me to make my lesson less boring.

I then went on to make my living from teaching for the next couple of years and was never again told that my lessons were boring. In fact, my students all raved about how much fun they had and how I helped them to stay committed to their studies.

Teaching can be a hard gig but it’s damn rewarding when you do it properly.

Benjamin McEvoy , fauxels Report

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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did you stop geting drunk before lectures? You can give a boring af word-by-word script lesson while sober even if you're just there for a paycheck. Personally I think and hope this made a difference and was another wake-up call for the teacher.

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#33

My mom was a teacher. She taught middle school. She loved to teach. One day she got back home quite upset. She had been having a bad day, and took her anger out on one student. After she had finished her rant, she looked in the fear in the student’s eyes and realized, that even though she hadn’t said anything; the girl’s eyes told her that she had just lost any trust she had built up with the her.
That day taught her, that her position could cause positive changes in kids, but it could also cause fear that she could never undo.

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I once asked students to come next time with their own laptops and added "I am sure every one has his own".

After class a girl came to me and mentioned that my comment caused her pain as she has no laptop. She mentioned that she is raised by a single mother and only manage tp pay fees of the private college.

I would not assume any thing for granted.

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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In the early 2000s, teachers started wanting our homework typed. Not everyone had a computer. A girl in my class did all her homework on a typewriter.

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I can respond from the student perspective. I grew up very poor and that comes with a certain amount of prejudice regarding your intellectual capacity.

My family moved to a new school right before I started 9th grade. We relocated a lot (often 2-3x per school year) and I learned early to fly under the radar by sitting in the back with the other poor kids, so as not to draw the attention of bullies and the catty ‘popular' crowds.

I was sitting in the back of the class in environmental science taking my first test of the year, which had a question on it so silly I snickered involuntarily, because it was just plain dumb.

Why is it cold at the south pole?

A. So the penguins won't sweat.

I forget the rest of the options, but the question and option that made me laugh resulted in my teacher coming up from his desk like a he had heard a starter shot. He grabbed my test, and the test of the poor kid Shane right next to me, accused us both of cheating, tore up our tests, trashed them and gave us both an F.

I had read and understood Rand McNally's Atlas of the Solar System when I was 4 and already knew at least 80% of the course material we studied that entire year.

More importantly I was deeply offended, embarrassed, and hurt by his automatic judgement of my intellectual capacity and character. So rather than throw a fit I decided he could learn a lesson that might be more valuable.

I deliberately failed every test, and turned in no homework all semester, but did the reading, participated in class, and paid attention.

A devious amount of patience has always been a character trait.

At the end of the first semester I made sure I sat in the first row directly in front of his desk and scored 110% including getting 2 college level questions right that he salts his extra credit answers with. I was also finished 15 minutes before anyone else in the class and made a show of putting away my pencil and kicking back in my desk.

After giving me my graded final back he asked me on the way out of the door to stay after class. This was the moment my patiently devious mind had been waiting for.

He was confused and said “You seem to have picked up on the material, in fact better than anyone in the class. Honestly nobody has ever been able to get all of my extra credit right, and you did. Why didn't you turn in any homework and fail all of the tests?”

I reminded him of his accusations of cheating, embarrassing Shane and I for no reason in front of the entire class, and pointed out that I felt I had amply demonstrated that I did not need to cheat, never had, and neither had Shane.

The blood drained from his face, he looked disconcerted and embarrassed for a second, as I would probably be today if a 14 year old punked me so thoroughly, regained his composure and apologized.

He told me if I finished all my tests and turned in my homework for the second semester I would receive my 110% final grade as my first semester grade. He also removed the first test when averaging Shane's grade which brought him up by a full letter.

We struck a deal and I took a bunch of his classes after that because he was a really good teacher, just perhaps needed a lesson in judging worth by social status.

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I learnt a lesson very early in my life as a University teacher that learning need not take place only inside the classroom, and students could learn the nuances of a subject on their own (despite bunking your classes), when they are suitably challenged to do so.

This dates back to around 1991, when I taught a course on Aircraft Performance to 3rd year undergrad students of my department. As per institute norms in force at that time (which remain pretty much the same even today !) an attendance of 80% was necessary to be permitted to write the end-semester (final) examination; and students with < 80% attendance were deemed to have insufficient exposure to the subject, and hence to be awarded a repeat grade. There were around 5 students in my class of ~ 25 who had below par attendance, and one among them was Anand Subramanian, whose attendance was < 50 %.

These 5 students pleaded me to overlook the minimum attendance requirement. They gave all sorts of frivolous reasons for missing my classes, and tried to argue why this rule was draconian and should be disregarded. I recall Anand making a statement that what if a student could learn and master the subject on his own, without the need for attending the classes; why should such a student be debarred from writing the final examination ? He claimed that he could gain complete understanding of this subject on his own in a week’s time, and was ready for any kind of test. But the deal was that I would waive this rule if I was satisfied with his knowledge of the subject. I took up this challenge.

After a week, when Anand came and met me, he showed me an expert system for Aircraft Performance that he had developed in AutoLISP programming language. This expert system could estimate any aspect of aircraft performance using the limited data that was available for any given aircraft, and the estimates would become better and better with training as more and more data was provided. For this, the system would scan through all the formulae related to aircraft performance and back-calculate the value of any variable whose value was fuzzy. When Anand demonstrated the working of this algorithm to me, I was amazed at the mastery over the subject that he had developed in just one week of study; he could reel out any formula, any equation, and also seemed to know the numerical values of the data related to a few aircraft for which he had trained this expert system !

When I asked Anand how he could do this in such a short time, he replied that he had learned AutoLISP as part of the problem he tackled in his undergraduate dissertation, and so he could quickly apply what he learned to solve this “real life” problem. Needless to say, I permitted him to write the end-sem examination, and I am sure he must have cracked it.

This example opened my eyes to the fact that given the right push, motivation, and an enabling environment, bright and hardworking students can learn many things on their own, without the direct help of a Teacher.

Thank You, Anand, for teaching me such a lovely lesson so early in my academic career!

P.S.

Anand was the Founder and CEO of NIMBLE TV, which was recently acquired by Synacor Inc. If he, or anyone else who knows him, reads this post, please help us re-connect.

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T'Mar of Vulcan
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Primary school example. When I taught Grade 6 English I did Jack the Ripper as a theme (it had been the previous teacher's theme and I just took over from her). I cut out any graphic descriptions, only showed the old drawings about the case, etc. But the kids were fascinated! They would bring me printouts of victim photos and ask questions about what organs were removed, etc. Yeah. But no parent ever complained. Unlike when I showed them an episode of Dr. Who. Just say... don't blink!

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#37

I think (or hope) I learned not to jump to conclusions. A student in a College Level class told me she had to miss the midterm, and could she write a make-up exam instead. I don't think it was what I actually said, rather it was the the tone of my voice that that upset her. She said, "I'm sorry but I'm starting chemotherapy."

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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The best way to respond to any student request is always "So tell me about this."

#38

I used to teach freshman composition for English language learners. I habitually assigned essays with what I thought were interesting prompts.

One of them was “What is my greatest fear?”

As I was reading over the responses to this assignment, one caught my attention. He was a young Vietnamese who had been in the army during the Vietnam War and had thereby been able to immigrate to the U.S.

In very bad English, he told the story of his job, which was to count the corpses on the terrain where a battle had just taken place. Not to fight, but just to count. That’s what he did all day long — look at dead bodies.

At first, I began to correct his English, but then I stopped. It felt ridiculous to be focused on grammar and spelling errors when reading this essay, which despite its gruesome details, presented also a flat, emotionless surface.

It turned out that his worst fear was having nightmares (which he frequently did) about those days — the sights and smells of the dead.

I wrote some sympathetic comment under the essay & stopped correcting the grammar.

The harsh truth I learned then was that some topics bring out truly horrible stories. I didn’t think “my greatest fear” would do that, but looking back, I realize that it’s a dangerous topic. Was the lesson for me, that I should pick my topics more carefully? Yes, partly it was only that. But partly it was that no matter what face a person presents to me, I cannot possibly know what lies behind that face.

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I’m the Director of a private preschool. We had a toddler of Indian descent that had obvious and severe developmental delays. As the school year passed… His teachers and I had concerns that he was not progressing and as the other kids in the class were learning to walk, talk and feed themselves etc. He was a big child (in height and weight) and would not be able to progress to the next class with his peers and was too old/big to stay in the class he was in. I had a difficult discussion with his parents, suggested that he needed ECI (Early Childhood Intervention) and informed them that we were unable to meet his needs. His parents were completely clueless. We provided many resources for them and offered much advice. They ended up shipping him back to India, where family institutionalized him and basically shut him away to be forgotten about… as he was a “shame to the family”. It broke my heart. I realized that there are just some people that will always choose to take the easy way out and avoid an issue than meet it head on. Some parents are just unable to advocate for their child and some people should not be parents.

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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's a real shame he couldn't be accommodated, but I'm assuming that there was a safety issue with having a child much larger than the others? Especially one who might not learn how to play gently?

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#40

30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread I have taught mathematics to students in the 3rd standard, to students who were preparing for CAT (Common Admission Test: The entrance exam for an MBA program in India) and to nearly everyone in between. It is fun to teach the same subject to such a wide range of age group. It teaches you a lot about teaching!

OK, so about the truths I learned from my students.

There is a plethora of things which I learned from my students, but because the question asks for one particular thing, here is one incident which I still remember vividly.

Once, after a class was over, a 15 year old student, who was in the 9th standard, came to me and asked me to solve a complex geometry problem which he was having trouble with. He also had his mother with him. I was very young at that time and perhaps because of this, she was looking visibly incredulous. I felt alarmed. I didn’t want to look foolish before her.

I confidently took the book from my student and peeped into it. The problem seemed simple. I took a pencil and began trying. It was a time when I used to have a lot of ‘performance pressure’ issues and I felt very uncomfortable, trying to solve a problem while the lady eyed me constantly. Normally I could have solved that problem in about 15 seconds but that day, even after a whole minute I was pissing in the wind.

And then it happened. I heard my student say, “You will never get it done!”

I couldn’t believe my ears. I had always believed, although subconsciously, that in this moment of crisis, he would be on my side. I stole a glance at him.

I found him smiling, not laughing, not smirking, smiling!

I don’t know what expression his mother’s face showed because I couldn’t gather courage to have a look at her.

I got even more confused and just stared at him blankly. And then he spoke the magic words.

“You will never get it done because you are not trying to solve the problem. What you are really figuring out is a way to get out of this awkward situation, probably because my mother is around.”

I felt like Dr. Watson usually feels when Sherlock explains him something ‘trivial’. Eventually I cleared his doubt and like they say, the pleasure was all mine!

Today, as a 24 year old person, I still feel surprised at the generic-ness of his observation. We are often told to ‘not to give a shit’ about what others think of us. But I learned something more fundamental that day.

In pressured scenarios, mistakes happen not because of incompetence, but because of divided attention. Don’t try to run away, focus on the problem at hand.

I learnt it, but I still struggle hard sometimes to actually ‘use’ what I learnt.

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#41

That adults can be incredibly selfish and cruel.

In one case, a middle school boy revealed that his mother, when given a choice by a judge to choose to keep either her children or her boyfriend who was abusing one of the children. She chose the boyfriend.

I've often said I've learned many things about people and human behavior from my time as an educator I wish I had never learned. Watching kids go through the pain is scarring, and some situations I'll never get over… all because adults can be incredibly selfish and cruel.

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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My grandmother was a special education teacher. I was horrified when she told me that not all of her students' disabilities were congenital or caused by accidents. Some were caused by abuse from adults.

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"My student, Sean, taught me that the time we have with our students is precious. Deeper learning experiences are needed by our students. Not in two years, not in six months, not next week. Deeper learning experiences are needed by our students today. Right now. This very moment. We need to structure environments where students are deeply engaged in their lives as they are living them.

I know this is true because during the last days of the 2010/11 school year, the worst fear of every teacher was realized for me. My student was murdered. Sean (15), and his younger brother Kyle (13) tragically died in a murder/suicide, killed by their own father. Sean was my favorite that year. In fact, Sean was my favorite student of all time. He was the kid I wished I could have been at fifteen. He swaggered into school with confidence, intelligence, and a never-ending stream of comic book superhero references. Sean and I became close immediately. This closeness in our relationship only increased as we spent many hours together in my after-school Graphic Novel Project, touring statewide on the weekends, selling comics at conventions."

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#43

That I had no business being in front of a classroom.

It was my first year of teaching junior high band. Well into the school year I discovered that one of my clarinet players had no clue how to play the thing and through pure embarrassment simply faked playing.

Rather than dealing with her privately I spent most of the rest of the class trying to catch her up with two months of work, with her classmates giggling behind and her turning red with embarrassment and anger. I then realized I was teaching the subject and had no idea how to teach students.

I lasted another two years and to everyone's relief had a nervous breakdown, sought medical treatment and another field.

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The harshest truth I ever learned from a student was that things aren’t as simple as they seem or we would like, and that not every situation has a straight forward, cut and dried solution.

I’ve taught in a lot of places from elementary school to college to graduate university to prison, but this particular incident occurred on a basketball court when I was coaching a Boys’ Club team with my lifelong friend Lee McGee up in Harlem. Lee came from the same tough neighborhood in Brooklyn as Mike Tyson, whereas I came from the mean streets of New Hampshire and Western Massachusetts. He was head coach and I was the assistant. Our team consisted of 12 year olds who were a pretty unruly bunch of street kids who constantly challenged authority. This was particularly true of one kid, “Eric,” who was our best player. One day I was running a shirts & skins scrimmage while Lee was conducting a clinic with a few players. The teams I put together were a bit unbalanced, so I told Eric to switch over to the skins. His closest friends were all on the shirts team, and initially, he pretended like he didn’t hear me. Seconds later, Eric flat out refused, things escalated quickly, and Lee got involved. Eventually, Lee had some private words with Eric, had him run laps and sent him home. As Eric was leaving, I saw he was starting to cry, so asked Lee what was going on. Lee quietly told me that it was likely that Eric’s father beat him and he didn’t want the other players to see the marks. I was shocked and said, “If you suspected that, why the hell did you send him home???” Lee responded, “Rules are the one thing that separates us from the street and even some homes. These kids count on us to create an environment where rules apply. Without them, we don’t have a team and we lose ALL of these kids.” I still didn’t buy it and said, “Well, at the very least, we have to get social services involved.” Lee gave me a look that indicated that I didn’t know very much. “We do that and this will be the last time we ever see Eric in this gym and he will sure as hell take more beatings.” Later, Lee told me that he planned to check in on Eric and make low key inquiries with friends and neighbors.

Next practice, both Eric and I showed up early. We shot around in casual silence and never discussed the previous practice. Lee and I never ran shirts & skins again. Eventually, we made a run for the city championship necessitating more practices. In the end, our team was league runner-up and Eric was voted MVP.

A year later, we were coaching a team of 10 year olds. There was a kid who was slipping and sliding around in old shoes from the Good Will. Before the first game of the season, we met in front of a sporting goods store where I proceeded to buy him a pair of Nike high tops. Outside the store, the kid looked at the shoes with wonder, like they were the most beautiful thing he had ever seen. Then we proceeded to put dirt on the shoes and scuff them against the curb. When we arrived for the game, the other kids on the team all double-taked at the shoes but no one questioned his story that they came from a pawn shop. I had learned a lot since the previous season.

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#45

When I was teaching a freshman composition class—one of my first classes as a colllege instructor—a student blatantly plagiarized an essay. Now, this student had been struggling a little bit all semester, and I got the feeling that he really wasn't all that engaged. When I saw he had copied large portions of his paper from the Internet, I knew I had to have a serious talk with him.

The next class rolled around, and I gave the class something to do and pulled this young man out into the hall. I confronted him about his paper, and he denied it, saying that he wrote it. But I pressed him, and I could see his walls starting to come down. He began to tear up, and admitted he had copied it from another source. He went on to tell me about the myriad struggles he had at home and in his life in general, and how hard college was proving to be for him. And hearing his story, my seriousness about his plagiarized paper seemed so petty. I realized: sometimes school is not the most important thing, and that students live lives that are more complex and challenging than we often know. What feels like a life-or-death situation in the academic world is really just another challenge in some students’ endlessly challenging world—it's all a matter of perspective.

It shook my resolve as a teacher a bit, but I was able to calm the student down and talk things through. I obviously still had to deal with this problem, so I gave him 24 hours to rewrite the paper and in exchange would not pass the paper up to administration. To his credit, he wrote an entirely new paper, all his own words, and displayed an incredible resolve I won't ever forget.

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#46

I'm a relatively new teacher, but I have already learnt far more than my students than I have taught them. The key things:

1) Students will always know more than you do about something, and that's not a bad thing. I try to make my students aware that if they know something and want to share that knowledge, I'll facilitate that as much as possible - luckily I teach English which allows for lots of tangents!

2) Don't waste time. My students have taught me that their time is valuable, and that education is not one size fits all. When I'm teaching older students, I try to give them as much variety and choice as possible, so that they learn in a way that suits them. Sure, sometimes they won't pick a task that is most worthwhile for them, but then they hopefully learn something about how to reflect on their choices.

3) Pick your battles. Students are not robots, and they will have shitty days from time to time. So sometimes you don't jump on a student for being late if they look like they've already had a rough morning. If a kid has her head down when you ask about homework, she probably doesn't want it announcing to the rest of the class that she's not managed to do it. I've learnt that a quiet word at the end of a class can be much more effective than bawling at a kid in front of their peers.

I imagine that in a few years time, I'll have picked up a lot more.

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30 Times Students Taught Their Teachers Something About Life, As Shared In This Thread The harshest truth a student ever taught me was that I was not ready to teach young children.

I was doing my student teaching, which involved working with elementary school children for five weeks and then working with high school children for five weeks.

I was handing out supplies to second graders, and I was addressing the importance of waiting for instructions before starting anything and keeping their hands to themselves (Not marking on other students' papers, etc.). I looked over and saw a boy mark on the paper of the girl beside him. I went over and reminded him that they were not to mark on other people's papers. He replied, "I didn't." I told him that I had seen him do it, and saying things that weren't true is called lying. I asked him if he wanted to grow up to be a liar. At this point, he began sobbing, with shoulders heaving and everything. I felt like a jerk.

My observing teacher took me aside and informed me that I had done a horrible thing to that child. I realized that I had absolutely no idea how to relate to young children in that environment. How would I handle other situations?

I finished the student teaching at the elementary level and went on to the high school. I realized that I had a much more natural ability to communicate with that age group, while still maintaining a professional relationship. When I interviewed for jobs, I knew that I would be best suited for high school level instruction.

If I hadn't had that interaction, I might not have been as aware of my deficiencies, and I might have ended up being a not-very-good elementary art teacher. It was a harsh reality, but it was important for me, and I am much better off for having learned it when I did. I will also add that it taught me to think much more carefully about the words that come out of my mouth, because how my thoughts are expressed really does matter.

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While the wording could have been a little more gentle, I think what they did was fine. Kids in second grade are 7 to 8, are old enough to know what lying is and should be taught it isn't ok, especially when they are caught flat out like that.

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#48

That you never know what struggles are truly going on in someone's life. C was one of my favourite ever students. She came to me midway through her penultimate year in school. She was failing everything, described as rude, confrontational and unteachable and didn't want to be there.

It took a long time to break down those barriers. I remember her writing on the first day "There's no way I'm staying in this school for …." (Insert derogatory word for people with learning difficulties). Fast forward a few months of relentless positivity then one memorable day she said "You're not going to stop trying, are you? I've realised you're on my side and you want to fight for me not against me."

Her sense of humour was legendary. Like the day she persuaded the whole class to come to school in pyjamas and onesies then tried to tell me they would learn better if they were relaxed. She discovered passions. She was an exceptional artist and historian. We did a project on the Holocaust and her dream was to visit Anne Frank's house.

C became a peer mentor, counselling younger students and imploring them not to make the mistakes she had. One of the proudest moments of my career was accompanying her to an awards dinner where she received a prestigious award in recognition of this.

When she left school she gave me a teddy bear and left to begin an internship in Health Care. She had beaten hundreds of other kids to the post by writing an impassioned essay about why the NHS was so important to people's lives. Though she had left us for the world of work she would rush from her early finish on a Friday to pop down for a cup of tea and a catch up. After a stressful week at work she would burst through the door bringing sunshine and infectious laughter in her wake.

At the end of July I was in Europe on holiday. A close colleague and friend called me at close to midnight and told me to sit down - never a good combination. C had left us at the age of 17. The tragic thing is that she had taken pills then regretted it and sought help. It was too late and she left us afraid and in pain.

What I learned is that however together someone seems you can never truly know the inner turmoil they may be experiencing.

C's mother (who is beautiful, brave and dignified) used her pain to salvage something positive. She set up a foundation to educate other youngsters on the dangers of cries for help. She also established a group to support and divert young women with mental health difficulties and provide social opportunities and counselling. Her legacy lives on. I am absolutely sure her story has saved at least one young person from making the same mistake. I only wish we hadn't had to lose her from this world to achieve that.

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As an adjunct professor at San Francisco State I was teaching an course in computer logic (early days of computer science about algorithym development). It was in 1978, as many Asians were coming to San Francisco due to the failed end of the war in Vietnam. An older woman named Ms. Xi (as I recall) sat far back in the room, wrapped in a gray blanket, looking grim and never speaking one word.

I used to have the bad tendency to “handicap” students (in my thought process) prejudging who would be winners and losers. I was rarely wrong. Ms. Xi seemed to have a real problem with English, she was old and unhappy looking. I gave her very little chance of sticking around to complete the school term (quarter system as I recall).

The mid-term exam was long, written form and complex. Students had to propose an algorithym to solve a particular problem related to queueing. Ms. Xi sat grim looking in the back row and completed the exam near the end of alloted time. She walked to the front of class to hand in the completed work. Her blanket dragged the floor a bit, and I received the exam saying to her “thank you Ms. Xi”. She looked utterly shocked that I knew her name since we had never spoken. I detected a very slight smile as she turned to leave.

I “blind graded” those types of exams in an attempt to remove any bias from the process. One exam in particular took me a long time to evaluate. At first I totally missed the purpose of the student’s proposed algorithym and thought it to be a real loser. But something about the work caused me to re-examine it several times. Finally it hit me! This thing was elegant and an approach that I had never seen prior at all.

That exam merited 100 points, a very rare perfect score. Looking at the student’s name I nearly fell off my chair when I realized that the student was none other than Ms. Xi. She seemed to accept the result in stride. From that day forward I had profound respect for Ms. Xi. God knows what odds she overcame to end up in San Francisco, but I truly valued her genius. This story occurred nearly 50 years ago. But the lesson that Ms. Xi taught me has been prominent in my mind from that day forward. “Never judge a book by it’s cover.” Thank you again Ms. Xi.

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“Y’all are doin’ too much right now.” Several students chuckle.

“What do you mean, D——-? We have to walk around and give instructions and plug these computers in. We’re teachers; that’s our job.”

“Yeah but y’all are doin’ too much though.” More amused agreement, some tension waiting to see what we’ll say. We don’t really know what to say, though.

It took maybe three more visits for my colleague and I to realize that she meant we were tryhards. We were trying too hard. Maybe to relate to the kids, maybe at something else that day, I can’t quite remember. But teaching in a juvenile detention center usually has one ugly truth at its core: there are some things you don’t have in common with your students and never will. That day, at least, we had it pointed out to us. Most days, it went better.

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Unlike anybody who has answerd the question here, neither was I a good student nor an examplary teacher, but somehow after graduation I ended up teaching in a rural private school to basic levels for an year or so.

I being the youngest teacher in school, the 10th graders rather saw me as their friend than a teacher (I never taught their class though). They would often come to me for their this & that problems and I was more than happy to help because I had so many briliant young friends who not only enjoyed my company but also respected me.

It was April, I think, the younger students were not yet back to school after annual exams, but the 9th & 10th grades were there.

There was one Ismail in 10th, who would never miss an opportunity of being funny, so one day their math teacher was absent and I was there to cover his class and just at random Ismail claims that he can mimic (I'm not sure "mimic" is appropriate word for it) all the teachers of school and rest of the class votes for a go, so I also decided to let him do what he claimed he could, because it was their free time and I was under no directions to teach anything but only keep them occupied in classroom.

Ismail, one by one mimics his teachers, their good traits, bad one and funny ones (inside and outside the classroom) and his mimicry left me in shock and surprise, not just for good acting, but his keen observation enabling him to put the entire persona of his teacher in front of his audience/viewers. That day I realised that these children seldom miss any slip of tongue, mistake and even a single briefist moment where you inadvertantly attempt to scrach your balls, they see almost everything like they can even peek into your soul.

The only thing I regret about that day is, I stopped him from doing mine because I couldn't gather the courage to see myself in the mirror.

I was never able adopt teaching as profession, but till this day I miss those cheerful friends of mine, whom I taught almost nothing but learned a lot from them.

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Here's a short answer from a home school mother. After a couple of years, my oldest child who was seven at the time, told me, "Mommy, the things I teach myself are better than the things you teach me!"

I asked him what he meant by that, and he said that he was thinking about math and had figured out that 3 x 7 was 21, and that since he had figured it out himself, he would never forget it.

That always stayed in my memory and guided me to respect my children more. My preconceived ideas of what they should learn were not always right. His words caused me to work with them on what they needed to learn, to find their own place in the world, and when it was time, to let them go. The same thought also guided me to place less importance on my own efforts and more on motivating their efforts.

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#53

I’ll talk from the student perspective so as to let you know how students in a tender young age perceive situations.

It was in 4th grade (I was around 9 y.o), during the spring season, and about 2 months left before moving to the next grade.

On a sunny Wednesday afternoon, around 1:00pm, we were having calligraphy writing of the alphabet w/ our teacher. A lovely, sweet, young woman, always with a smile on her face, and with lots of love for toddlers, but most of all, love for her job as a teacher on a public elementary school. So, we (25 students to be exact) were writing down our alphabet letters on a specific notebook, and she (I’m sad I don’t remember her name) was walking between the desks, checking our writing and correcting where necessary.

Suddenly, out of the blue, a classmate of mine asked our teacher for information about our next grade, the 5th grade; what subjects are included and if they’re difficult, and so on. She gladly answered the question, and then another of my classmates asked the right question …

“Miss … are we all going to be together in 5th grade?”

I remember she didn’t answer right away. She took her time, as if she was contemplating whether or not to drop the bomb, and little did she know what would follow after revealing what was going to happen next. Eventually, she decided to let us know.

“Kids, I’m sorry to say this to you, eventually, you’re going to be told, but you’re not going to be together in 5th grade.”

She paused for awhile, waiting to see our reaction and then continued…

“Classes are going to be divided the upcoming year, so you won’t be in the same class with your friends. I’m sorry.”

Every each one of us stopped what was doing. Absolute silence in the classroom. We were staring at the teacher, and she was staring back at us. And then, a girl started crying, and yelling …

“I want to be with my friends. I do not want us to be separated.”

And then a boy started crying, too, yelling …

“It’s so unfair, Miss.”

Little by little, every each one of us then started crying, literally sobbing because we would be separated from our friends from being in the same class.

So, as 25 little kids were literally crying and hugging each other for confrontation, and due to love, the teacher couldn’t keep it together and … guess what happened?

The teacher started crying, too.

Imagine 25 kids AND the teacher, crying all together. It’s a funny scene to witness, yet heartbreaking.

So, what is it my teacher was taught that day?

She was taught the pure value of friendship and reciprocated love in very innocent and young ages. Not everybody was friends w/ one another, but eventually, we all were a big family.

Eventually, next year the classes were divided and blended to form new ones that consisted of different kids, and we were never told why it happened.

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#54

I'll have to tell this story vicariously, as it was my girlfriend at the time who experienced this. She liked being hip and cool, and was kind of into the local band scene and she had purple streaks in her hair.

One day after parent teacher conferences, she asked one of her students why she didn't get to meet their parents, to which the kid replied "my parents said they don't take people with purple hair seriously".

Obviously, the kid wasn't supposed to repeat this, but I think it was eye-opening for her to see that sometimes you do have to adjust your style in favor of your professional environment, even if no one wants to actually admit that.

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Marie BellaDonna
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OR, or, or, sometimes you have to realize that some people are just narrow-minded little snobs who would do something detrimental to their child's education and future because of their inability to see past the tips of their own upturned noses, and not give a flying fúck what they think about you.

#55

That schadenfreude knows no bounds.

A long time ago, I was a primary school English teacher. My students were about 10–11 years old.

One morning, one of them was missing. He was a quiet kid from a really conflictive—and poor—family. His father was a very violent man who used to regularly beat his eight brothers and sisters. Each one of his siblings had trouble at school or a miserable life, it seems this one—the youngest—was the one to be spared such cruel misfortune.

The next day I was notified why he was missing. His father left him locked in a cabin where later a sailor sexually abused him.

I was shocked.

Then I was even more shocked when kids started making jokes regarding his absence.

—He’s being uploaded to red-tube.

Even girls were participating in the pun-fest about that tragic incident.

—Will he come in a wheel-chair?

I couldn't stand it.

—WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU KIDS!?!?!?! I thought, before unleashing an avalanche of homework which would keep them busy enough for weeks.

Three months later I quit my teaching job. Luckily I never needed it in the first place.

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#56

I've learned so many wonderful things from my students. I wish you hadn't asked for the harshest. The harshest lesson I have ever learned as a teacher (and I don't think it'll ever get easier) is that you can't save them all.

I was teaching at an inner-city high school and Iban was one of my students though he rarely came to class. A lot of teachers had given up on him, but one of the assistant principals had given me his back story and, oh, I wanted to help him. I wanted to make him see that focusing on his education was the answer, that we were on his side, that we had his back. But I couldn't get him to change his priorities and I lost him to the streets and it still hurts. And it always will. And I will always regret the ones I lose...

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#57

The harshest truth I have learned is that you cannot save them all. No matter how much you care for your students, no matter how good the relationship, some students come to us so damaged, they will not have the good lives we could wish they would have. It is the hardest thing I have had to learn in my many years of teaching.

As a teacher in a public high school, I’ve had many wonderful students over the years who have flourished and prospered. I stay in touch with them. I celebrate and revel in their successes. But it is the children who failed to find their paths that keep me up at night.

And sometimes, even years later, their faces and their situations haunt me. I always wonder, “Could I have done more?” “Could I have been more inspirational?”

Teachers, as all teachers know, don’t just teach. We’re social workers, ancillary parental figures, club leaders, cheer leaders (for our students), tutors, curriculum designers, and social directors. I think we’re also, often, seen as jailers, which complicates our success in the aforementioned 7 tasks.

Breaking through and teaching students who have developed a hatred for the educational system (and teachers) is our toughest task. Every teacher is held responsible for every bad teacher a student has had in the past and in many cases we have to reestablish trust in the educational system before we can begin to teach. And we have to do this while we teach 100 (or more) students a day, and grade those students work in a timely manner, and produce quizzes and tests, and manage to deal with other students’ problems as well.

I can remember one student in particular, who broke my heart my second year of teaching in high school. He had had a teacher who told him in third grade that he would never amount to anything and he was doing his best to prove her right. I found out about that third grade teacher after having a very long conversation with this student about his behavior in my class. But understanding this student, and talking with this student, and tutoring this student, was not enough, and he eventually went off the rails, assaulted a teacher, and left our school. He was always very kind to me, but I knew he was volatile. Yet there was so much that was positive in him, I still grieve for what might have been- if only he’d been in a less challenging home situation; if only he’d had more interventions; if only he’d had more positive teachers along the way, things might have turned out differently.

So my student taught me that no matter how much you care, and even if you do spend the extra time with a student, you may still fail to put that student on a path that will lead to success. But he also taught me that the time spent is not wasted, even if the intervention seems like a failure, because every relationship your build teaches you more about how to build them in the future, and that softens the hard truth a little, but not nearly enough.

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#58

I was a school teacher for 8 years and taught students from 13–16 years old. There was this student who talked non-stop during lesson despite me, so many times I warned her and I asked her to stop. In the end, I made her stand as a form of punishment and soon she started crying. I asked her if she wanted to go to toilet to cool down and she refused, after a while I let her sit down.

I called her dad personally to explain the situation and her dad seemed to understand the situation and there was no unhappiness from his side.

Guess what the dad came personally the week to see the vice principal who was one of my bosses. He complained that I was very fierce and whole class was scared of me and affect his daughter’s learning.

In all my 8 years, there was no complaints from any parents nor about my teaching. The vice principal sided with the parent without even checking about the situation at all and ask other students in the class about the actual situation.

I turned cold. The harsh truth I learnt that a shitty person usually have shitty parents and being shitty has nothing to do with age. This student was just 15 years old and definitely told a different story to her dad. I realised that I had lost all motivation at my job too given no support from higher management, not even any attempt to clarify the situation.

My grade dropped (yes, Teachers are being ranked here) for first time below expectations. I quit my job less than a year after that incident.

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#59

I taught Primary in church for about two years (for those unaware, in the Mormon church, Primary is like Sunday School for little kids). In that time, I learned something deeply horrifying about humans.

Not all humans are born “good,” and the awful ones will attract similar awful ones.

I was teaching 6 year olds. There were five kids in my class. Two of them are the focus of this story. Note: names have been changed.

Ellie was one of the girls, and Drake was one of the boys.

Drake was, simply, your average 6 year old. He was a little hyper, and not always good at paying attention. But he was a great kid.

During our lesson on holidays, he blurted out “Valentine’s Day must be about how Jesus loves us and so we should love other people and be nice to everyone!” I don't care what the real answer was, I like his better.

The other teachers weren't fond of him. His hyperactivity wore on their nerves. They scolded him constantly.

Ellie, on the other hand, was trouble. Not in the disrupting class way, but in the nasty, bullying, hitting the other kids and trying to hide it because she knew it was wrong.

She was charming though. That was the big issue. Her charm made most of the teachers forget that she was trouble. They knew when they saw it, but somehow no one translated it into a pattern of behavior.

Ellie’s least favorite classmate was Drake.

At least once a class, Ellie would do something to try and get Drake in trouble. Sometimes she'd pinch so hard he screamed. Other times she'd go crying to the Primary President, saying he'd punched her and I wasn't doing anything about it. Once, she gave him a piece of candy, and then ran off crying that he'd stolen it.

Bad news, this girl.

In Sharing Time (group lessons) I sat the kids three in front of me and two on each side. This let me keep the best eye on all of them. I always sat Ellie and Drake as far away from each other as possible to minimize the damage. Ellie was in front of me to the right, and Drake was next to me to the left.

Ellie turned around and shouted “Drake just kicked me!” I looked at her and said in my most serious voice, “Ellie Fisher we do not tell lies!”

She burst into tears. The primary president came over to comfort her.

The Primary President was not someone any of us thought had any business being around kids. Her favorite punishments used humiliation, and she had no problem humiliating teachers and students alike. She'd gotten full custody of her daughter in the divorce, and we had no idea how she pulled it off. We only knew her ex-husband had somehow been shamed out of town of his own accord and put up no contest.

She was basically a grown-up Ellie.

Naturally, she adored Ellie. Her poor daughter. I had her in my class, and this woman regularly brushed off her own daughter’s hugs in favor of this girl. It was sickening.

Ellie got a necklace with a hard, heavy, plastic pendant on it for Christmas. Within seconds of starting class, she'd taken it off and hit another child with it so hard it left a welt.

“Ellie, this is your only warning. If I see that necklace off your neck one more time, I'll take it until the end of the day,” I told her, following all the rules I'd learned from the teacher discipline information I'd read.

She put it back on.

Come sharing time, she took it off again. Then, quick as a flash, she reached across me and whacked Drake with it.

“Ellie, give me the necklace. You can have it back when sharing time is over.”

“But it was a present from Santa!” she wailed.

“No buts. You had your warning. I told you what would happen. Give me the necklace now.” She jumped up and ran to the Primary President.

“There there,” the Primary President consoled. “Your teacher is just being a meanie. She won't do anything like that again.”

Ellie moved away the next year, and the Primary President left the church when another teacher called her out on a different issue. The Primary President has been married three times since then, and has bled

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#60

1. Teachers don't have all the answers in the world. A student once asked me, why does the sun appears bigger at sunset compared to 12 noon. It was during a friggin' maths class. *facepalm*
2. Teachers make mistakes too. I got the equation wrong. Alright. My mistake. Not the calculator's fault (Although my calculator took the blame many times).
3. Some of us don't teach because we like kids or because it is our passion. We might be broke, jobless any clueless. So quit assuming that all teachers love kids. I particularly don't.
4. Teachers can be boring, grumpy and not fun. Probably many find it hard to digest that teaching is not a fun job. I taught third graders that found my annoyance amusing.

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T'Mar of Vulcan
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Okay a bit off-topic but the questions during Maths made me remember. Once in Geography class I asked a question, and Jean-Pierre put up his hand. "Ma'am, are you a Christian?" (I'd been playing with my cross pendant without realizing it.) I looked at this child and deadpan responded, "No, I just wear this to keep vampires away," and carried on with the lesson.

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